With Kami's energy, Piccolo was able to go toe-to-toe with Android 17 and Cell in his Imperfect form. Once he got his nerfs removed and potential back he skyrocketed in stats and ability. [–]thisonedudefam 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (1 child). but of course Kami isn't a name, it's a title. Now if you take the fact that Nail's power level at the time of fighting Frieza was 42,000 this means that means Piccolo's power level before fusing is roughly at about 950,000. "DBZTubers". Kami was piccolo's second half, and he was stated to be an impressive namekian. Piccolo is one of the strongest fighters in the Dragon Ball series overall and perhaps the most powerful Namekian warrior who has ever lived. According to the Grand Elder, nothing less then a Super Saiyan should have killed the Nameless Namekian had his full potential been reached, and Nail implied that had Piccolo reunited with Kami and been reborn as the Nameless Namekian, he would have defeated Frieza with ease. Later in the after his training in preparation for the Androids, he easily dominates Android 20 and after re-fusing with Kami, he could easily defeat Imperfect Celland … Their fusion resulted in beings much stronger than Piccolo's original strength as the Nameless Namekian, he had to train for years to reach the level the U6 Namekians were at after fusing with most of their people. I drew this because I'm still riding on the Gogeta hype train! I dont think that nearly implies what you think it does but thanks for the source. 1. >!spoiler!<. For the rest of the week, see r/DBZCU. I disagree you are being tainted by the anime where charge times are exaggerated. The Namekians felt he alone deserved to live even if the others were wiped out by the disaster on Namek. (Video must be animation or AMV.) Its not nearly definitive. After struggling to be useful on the field due to him lacking enough power to compete with his enemies, Piccolo strikes back after fusing with Kami, ready to help his allies thanks to his all new capabilities. Piccolo (Fused w/Kami) 260,000,000 Piccolo (Fused w/Kami Full Power) 330,000,000 Piccolo (Cell Games) Piccolo (After the Hyperbolic Time Chamber) 1.3 Billion Piccolo (Full Power) 1.65 Billion World Tournament 7 Years Later. Characters in DBZ are as strong as the plot wants them to be. He was almost equal to 17. Which in turn means that after fusing with Nail, Piccolo's power was increased by a measly 5%. Hoping to aid Piccolo's fight against the tyrant, Nail allows Piccolo to fuse with him to be as he once was with Kami. Throwback to when I took my kids to see Broly in theatres. In Dragon Ball Z: Sagas, in the mission "Piccolo's Fusion", after fusing with Kami, Piccolo then engages in battle with Android 17. Spoilers Generic game clips. However, I also thought that he would then be able to become much stronger now that he became a whole being and more...but obviously Toriyama didn't see it that way, [–]Blugrave 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children). Piccolo and Kami didnt do the same type of fusion that Piccolo and Nail did. It is more of an assimilation (the alternate title of this type of fusion) than fusion, as one Namekian absorbs the energy, strength, memories, and intelligence or thought pattern of another. [–]aka-el 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (2 children). Join our new Discussion subreddit, r/dragonball! Fused with Kami Piccolo uses the Namekian Fusion with Kami and becomes a Super Namek. Merging however brought them to a power to rival Freeza's second form, a level exceeding one million. No, piccolo would have outright lost that fight. Also he wouldn't need it to be as powerful for killing Cell to kill 17 so he could charge faster anyway. This is gonna be a bit of a long post, but I need to explain my reasoning. New submissions are reviewed before [–]Trofulds 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago (9 children). If Piccolo went from Android #20 level to Android #17 level by fusing with Kami (one Namekian), and from weaker than 100,000 to around 2nd Form Frieza (1,000,000+), then Piccolo should multiply by 2 to 10 times in Power per fusion. Link to the source in the comments. Powers/Abilities The original Nameless Namekian was supposed to be on that level...yet the half that split off..weaker than dog shit with nerfed base stats and potential...reached that far. But Piccolo wouldn't have the same power level considering the Fusion multiplier. Althought its still much smaller than the Kami fusion which just doubled or trippled his power at most. So, while they proved to be somewhat stronger then Piccolo, it took them fusing with hundreds of fellow Namekians to match the strength of the United Nameless Namekian and the boost he also got from Nail. Its a merger of two halfs into a single being who once reborn, was strong enough to outclass an untrained Super Sayian. So yes, Gohan, and therefore the U6 Namekians, are indeed Blue tier. The only reason the light grenade would have killed 17 is because piccolonhad the time to just sit there and put all of his power into it. Also fusions tend to increase the power a lot. [–]SSJRemuko -1 points0 points1 point 2 years ago (5 children), pre Nail fusion Piccolo's power impressed Nail, [–]thisonedudefam 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago (4 children), [–]SSJRemuko -1 points0 points1 point 2 years ago (3 children). (inb4 "Goku total didn't sandbag the fuck out of every fight with his friends leading up to the tournament", because he did), [–]Trofulds 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago* (0 children). His power was far greater than either piccolo or kami’s. [–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (1 child), Implying Ultimate Gohan was actually on par with SSB Goku. Super Namekian Piccolo (merged w/ Kami): 320,000,000 Full-Power Super Namekian Piccolo: 400,000,000 ... Fusion Reborn Edit Wrath of the Dragon Edit Neo Arc Edit Son Goku and his Friends Return Edit. The increase didn't shoot him very far, yes he was stronger than the Super Saiyans and initially Cell's first form, but couldn't quite surpass 17 and 18. Super Warrior, Regeneration, Merging, Legends Road, Namekian, Unknown, SPARKING, Support Type, YEL, Cell Saga (Z), Piccolo. Except it was stated by the narrator that Gohan's power rivaled that of SSB Goku and Gohan had multiple showings in the ToP like overpowering Koichiarator with his limit breaking Kamehameha, who was evenly holding a beam struggle against SSB Goku and Vegeta and he was fighting evenly against Dyspo, who was strong enough to push SSG Goku to Blue and was damaging Golden Freeza. When Kami and Piccolo Jr finally reunited, with piccolo being much stronger than the original Daimao, the reborn true Namekian regained his true power that was lost to him. 4 years ago The nameless Namek who was sent to earth as a child wanted to become Kami but was unable to because of evil in his heart, so he split his evil out into its own entity, the original Piccolo. Forms and Power Ups Multipliers/Non-Canon, https://dbpl.fandom.com/wiki/Power_levels_by_saga?oldid=9366, 2% True Form (Frieza Arc; in vision): 3,000,000, Frieza (1st form - holding back): 330,000, Gohan (Zenkai + Potential unlock full): 350,000, Piccolo (Unweighted/Full Powered): 1,250,000, Piccolo (Gohan & Krillin ki absorbed): 2,150,000, Piccolo (Unweighted - Full Power): 200,000,000, Android 19 (Kamehameha's energy): 180,000,000, Android 19 (Vegeta's energy): 220,000,000, Super Namekian Piccolo (merged w/ Kami): 320,000,000, Full-Power Super Namekian Piccolo: 400,000,000, Imperfect Cell (humans absorbed): 420,000,000, Vegeta (post Room of Spirit/Time training): 10,500,000, Second Grade Super Saiyan Vegeta: 650,000,000, Future Trunks (post Room of Spirit/Time training): 10,250,000, Second Grade Super Saiyan Future Trunks: 615,000,000, Full-Power Super Saiyan Goku: 900,000,000, Full-Power Super Saiyan Gohan: 1,080,000,000, Super Saiyan 2 Gohan (Full Potential Release): 2,700,000,000, Ascended Super Saiyan Vegeta: 840,000,000, Ascended Super Saiyan Future Trunks: 780,000,000, Super Namek Piccolo (post Room of Spirit/Time training): 800,000,000, Power-Weighted Perfect Cell: 1,350,000,000, Majin Vegeta (Super Saiyan 2): 3,000,000,000, Goten (post Room of Spirit/Time training): 10,000,000, Trunks (post Room of Spirit/Time training): 10,500,000, Ultimate/Mystic Gohan (Potential Unleashed): 36,000,000,000, Hell Fighter 17 (supressed): 2,000,000,000, Super 17 (Energy absorbed): 1,600,000,000,000, First Fruit of the Tree of Might: 320,000, Second Fruit of the Tree of Might: 800,000, Legendary Super Saiyan Broly: 7,500,000,000, Ascended Super Saiyan Vegeta: 1,260,000,000, Ascended Super Saiyan Future Trunks: 1,170,000,000, Legendary Super Saiyan Broly: 10,500,000,000, Legendary Super Saiyan Broly: 39,000,000,000, Legendary Super Saiyan 2 Broly: 78,000,000,000, Legendary Super Saiyan 3 Broly: 312,000,000,000, Full Power Super Saiyan 3: 120,000,000,000. Tier: Low 6-B | 5-B | 5-B, High 5-A after fusing with Nail | Low 4-C, 4-C after fusing with Kami, High 4-C after training in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber | At least High 4-C | High 4-C | 3-A Name:Piccolo Junior / Ma Junior, Demon King Piccolo, the Nameless Namekian Origin: Dragon Ball Age: 3 - 31 (physically 32) at the end of Dragon Ball Z Gender:Genderless, though referred to as male Classification:Namekian Powers and Abilities: Master Martial Artist, Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Acrobatics, Magic, Tr… Merging however brought them to a power to rival Freeza's second form, a level exceeding one million. [–]Randymgreen 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (2 children). This has been on my mind for awhile now. The best comparison would be the Legendary Super Saiyan to the Saiyans and Frieza compared to his father and the rest of his race. face, height and build). Submitted content should be directly related to Dragon Ball, and not require a title to make it relevant. [–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children). Even if were the strongest warriors on Universe 6's Namek, they could have been no stronger then Nail before they merged with most of the population of their Namek. Astonishing doesn't imply at all that Piccolo is stronger than Nail. I am also guessing who said it also meand full power frieza, cause when he fought the androids after fusing with kami, Piccolo grew 2 times as … The second one was way way bigger.       can view them in more detail here. Submission Guidelines [–]Genki_Fucking_Dama 9 points10 points11 points 2 years ago (3 children). I'd say Piccolo with ease. Yes there is. His chest and stomach are mostly exposed apart from a long flowing brown vest. - Barter Bear, DKC3 Dallas Mavericks 2011 NBA champions. The Nameless Namekian is special, that's wh the bost he got was so impressive.. [–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 2 years ago (0 children), [–]Orannegsen 5 points6 points7 points 2 years ago (0 children), The Nameless Namekian was Dragon Clan right? )<1st form Freeza(530k). Even besides generic characteristics of their race, Nail looks virtually identical to Piccolo (i.e. Having Nail's power gave Piccolo the edge he needed to help Gohan, Krillin, and Vegeta against Frieza. He dons a blue vest and a white scarf around his neck. Memes. [–]Caryslan 27 points28 points29 points 2 years ago (7 children). Dragon ball Z Power Levels - last post @ Feb 25, 2018 Forum Power Level Up: Requests, Feedback, and Suggestions - last post by @ Aug 6, 2016 Last edited by Lesley Pro_04 on 3 July 2020 at 16:27 Combine that with the fact that they were originally the same being, and the whole merging was just that more potent. I just lowballed both of them to half of Gohan's power. Piccolo (jr) was just recombining with Kami to become whole again. Probably for the fusion its not relevant that kami was old and he gets the same power boost as if kami was in his prime. If we assume he didn't get any stronger from his fight against Nappa and he stayed at around 1,000, then the increase he had with Nail was around a 1000 times since he was stronger than 2nd Form Freeza who was at over a million. We reserve the right to remove I combined my 2 favorites into 1... oh god what have I created??? Quizzes/polls/petitions. NSFW content. I don't think Toriyama ever gave Kami a real name for some reason, maybe he couldn't think of a good one. Piccolo and Kami is not like other kinds of fusion, or a simple powerups. Despite being the most powerful known character at one point, Piccolo hasn't been a major fighting force in the main story arcs since he fused with Kami and fought Android 17 and Imperfect Cell in Dragon Ball Z, so his power level in Dragon Ball Super is less defined than characters like Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, and Frieza. Piccolo's merging with Kami is slightly different from the earlier one with Nail, what happened with Nail was a traditional Namekian Fusion between separate entities, but Piccolo and Kami are spiritually linked because they are both sourced from the same Namekian. [–]Trofulds 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children). Look at Piccolo and Nail, for example, where Nail wasn't any higher than 42,000 and Piccolo, while strong, was likely only in the low ten thousands at best as well. Can someone explain Piccolos fusion with Kami to me? I mean, Saonel and Pirina were around half of Ultimate Gohan's power each, that is, around half of SSB Goku. Yes, Kami is old, but apparently the dragon balls can fix that to make him young again. (self.dbz). Either way he could certainly beat 18, she is a good chunk weaker and there's no evidence she has energy fields. [–]thisonedudefam 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (0 children), Yeah only thing we know about his power level pre Nail fusion its: Kamehameha's power level 924 Piccolo Special Beam Cannon's power level 1,330 Gohan Hidden Potential released 1,307 Gohan 1 Piccolo Special Beam Cannon's power level 1,440 Vegeta Saga (trainings) Master Roshi Base 139 Krillin 206 Turtle 0.001 Tien Shinhan 250 Yamcha 177 Piccolo With Weighted Clothing 329 Mr. Popo 1,030 King Kai 3,500 Figures can be submitted during Merch Mondays. Saonel and Pirina had to fuse with potentially hundreds of fellow Namekians to even stand a chance against Piccolo. Since piccolo is not a Saiyan and couldn't gain as much power in such a small amount of time, although he was stronger and could train better on king kai's planet, I'd … The evil half was reborn and trained up from dogshit to being impressive to the best warrior on Namek. after I put several Turrets inside our base, my friend paints this sign outside, Rust. Politics. Krillin kinda elaborates on this after Piccolo departs the team to see Kami, explaining the shared history will be why they'll become so powerful. [–]UtterFlatulence 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children). Fanart & Cosplay posts should credit the artist in the title or be marked OC. In this form, he takes a silver electric aura. That could mean anything. No WIPs. Edit: Getting downvoted for speaking facts, go figure ¯\_(ツ)_/¯, [–]SilentDues 25 points26 points27 points 2 years ago (18 children). I'd imagine their power level would have been the same since both where one being, and Piccolo is technically not entirely the other half, King Piccolo was. Click to hide fanart, cosplay & merch posts! 18vwas weaker than 17 so we know by extension he's certainly stronger than her at least. Piccolo had a power level of around 4000-5000 when fighting Nappa as although weaker he did do SOME damage. Versus debates. No, with Nail he only went from ! spoiler! < does but for! 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